Ḥamid Ouyachi
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word matters, things related to language (focus on Moroccan Tamazight + Tashlḥiyt) translation, poetry, etc. words in: Rusted Radishes, Tamazgha Studies Journal, Words Without Borders, etc. blog @
And apprently there is "calçonette" though not very common in Std. Fr. and not a dictionary word, yet. 'karṣuṭ' could be a mashup of two words? Serhoual gives only 'kalsu' though.
From my Twitter archive, where I had posted about Mmuy/Mou. Aktwit4 said that Ayt Sedrate (b/w Boumalne & Msemrir, NE of Skoura) also say /v/ for /b/: lǝvṛiq < lǝbṛiq lvǝrrad < lbǝrrad ṭṭavla < ṭṭabla avrid < abrid Seems, there is a /v/ trail from Sedrate to Mouy !
I think it is from Arabic رغا Doha Dictionary dates it back to ca. 9th century
Prasse et al. > Kǝl-Ǝkǝmmeḍ: lit. people of the ežwăl (burn-mark) called akǝmmeḍ > akǝmmeḍ: name of an ežwăl (= two horizontal lines on the thigh (animal), property mark..." There is no verb KMḌ = burn. Not in Heath, either. Yet, verb exists in Moroccan Tmz (SE, CA), Taš: kmḍ, kʷmḍ, kʷmṭ...
Re Ḥassania, could the proximity with Zenaga play a role? Zng and other Northern Amazigh lects have -s- (lax) -ss- (tense) causative form From Carles Múrcia, Gramàtica amaziga
Could be! Though, in Tmz (SE Morocco) it is always with /ur/: > ur wala ittannay (he does not see very well). BTW this neg use of 'wala' is not found in Tash. Stroomer gives 'wala' = very, citing Boogert. No example. 🧵1/2
The neg. loc. exists in SE Morocco. It means " not so/as/that (much)" ur wala d tteddun : they don't come/visit that much
From Hadaddou: Tuareg: 'tahibba' pl. 'tihibbawin' = chainmail I wonder if it is not a loan from Arabic: جبة " jubbaʰ "?
Today's post from U Barcelona Press. 🤗 Shsh!! don't ask about shipping $$
Reading D. Casajus on Emrewelqis (Imru' l-Qays) in Touareg poetry. A bit of boasting 'adaptranslated' into Tamazight: Mṛulqqis hat nkkin assa ayd-t igan addud, giġ-ak timmaẓ a bu-yzlan ur-d ikkisn i taḍfi n ddunit ġas imnḍiḍan yafid afus g tfrut anggu t-isselkan Source: shorturl.at/6EM54
Perhaps: "He does not guide them"? As in: لا يهديهم Jives with what follows... Murcia's Amazic-Catala dictionary has: TRG 'sǝmmtǝr': aconsellar (counsel, advise, guide...)
Morocco: Public sector LLMs trained on Darija and Amazigh. Issues with AI aside, i wonder if the LLMs will be regionalized to account for dialectal var, (with code-switching :-o) and be more accessible, or just stuffed with IRCAM artificial koine...
A version of the closing formula in Tamazight folktales: [...] I left it [there] in strife (evil) and I came in peace, [and] they struck me with bread, and I struck them with lead, [but] they kept missing me, I kept hitting them [...] (screenshot from Bynon's collection)
PS: with a plural: بتاعننا صحيفة التحرير » مالكم كيف تحكمون-إتفاقية_سيداو (5) share.google/6HftL0NmpQfL...
> Prasse et al (Niger): ažənžər 'gros scarabée/bousier' (also azənkekər; eḳănḳăr) > Heath (Mali): ġšnšr>æġšínšær 'dung beetle' (also, žnžr, ḳnḳr, žnkkr) My question: could 'zanzər' have any link to the word for 'sunray': iẓinẓṛ (also found in Tunart)? Perhaps, pushing it too far, but... 👇🏽
#3 Ibn Tunart (d.1172) continued: > الجعل, scarab, dung beetle: zanzər A quick survery of a few dictionaries: > Taine-Cheikh (Zenaga): iʔẕ̌ənẕ̌ər 'scarabée stercoraire, bousier' > Destaing (B. Snous): zinzer 'bousier' > Serhoual (Rif): tišurin uzinzar 'boules de bousier' 👇🏽
Also in Bulgaria. See screenshot from Frazer's Golden Bough, which has many variations on rituals with dolls associated with fertility (rain) and to ward off death. Japan has dolls to keep rain away: teru teru bozu steemit.com/japan/@dboos...
From Stroomer 'tamnjušt' means: 'autumn' (Bounfour & Boumalk);'autumn & early rains; late cultivation' (Amard); 'early produce' (Ropars). It seems to cluster: lxrif, amenzu, amaẓuẓ
More gleanings: Ibn Tunart's (d.1172) dictionary (MS_088_a). Brackets= my lect, Tmz, Goulmima, Morocco) > isggusn: years (isggʷasn) > irn: months (ayyurn) > tanbdudt: summer (anbdu, ṣṣif) > tagrst: winter (tagrst) > talddrar: spring (tifsa, ṛṛbiʕ) > tamnžušt: fall (amḍṛ, lxrif) *seasons all fem!
> id-asṭṭa : Pleaides (lit. ‘the weavers’, similar to ‘timeẓḍawin’ [Timimoun (Souag)]); in Boogert = id yesṭeḍ; he also gives al-Hilālī: ida sṭṭ (see @lameensouag.bsky.social “Astronomy among the Ayt Xebbac” for a discussion)
In SAr there are but a few words in فعلول (فنعول); could only find: طنبور زنبور عنجور (vocative) Modern loans: جندول (gondola) بندول (pendule) if you control for /n/ as infix (حرف زيادة), even less. Here السيوطي, المزهر on فعلول
Moroccan Darija seems to have a word for 'splinter' patterned similarly (Harrell)