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dolly -- lower-case 'd' is an intentional orthographic choice. please use it. ethnomethodological conversation analyst; recovering angel; frustrated autist; horny mystic.

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xX💖🌹Xx_dolly_Angelic_xX🌹💖Xx@dollyangelic· 24d

always have an icon of saint laura with me. It's half her face, every other fucked up girl makes the other side of the face. Remember we were put here for, no matter what else happens.

Screenshot of my phone lock screen. The wallpaper is a picture of Laura Palmer from twin peaks. It's only the right side of her face on screen.

xX💖🌹Xx_dolly_Angelic_xX🌹💖Xx@dollyangelic· 25d

Also, this was in the end of the credits of In The Mouth of Madness. The Inter Planetary Psychiatric Association should come and evaluate the earth now.

Screenshot from the credits where it has the American humane society notice to say no animals were harmed. Below that it says "Human interaction was monitored by the Inter Planetary Psychiatric Association. The body count was high, the casualites are heavy."

xX💖🌹Xx_dolly_Angelic_xX🌹💖Xx@dollyangelic· Jul 5

These two pertain to political talk, are primarily about how people do awful things by relying on presumptively shared understandings of words and categories to imply rather than do the bad thing outright. I've got more on pols and public democracy talk in the works.

‘So, it’s not necessarily about exclusion’ : Category use in naturally occurring transphobic talkElle Felicity HendersonAbstractTrans-exclusionary radical feminists challenge transgender people (specically women) from within a claimed feminist struggle. ey exclude transgender women and instead claim they are men colonising women’s spaces. I present a conversation analytic and analytical membership categorisation case study of a national radio interview in which the spokesperson for a trans-exclusionary feminist political group debates with the host on the nature of trans women and their exclusion from women’s spaces. I show how the interviewee accomplishes trans exclusion in talk,, often without making explicit claims about trans women, by constructing both biologically essentialist and experiential distinctions between trans and cis women, constructing trans women as participants in patriarchal oppression, and by problematising a claimed redenition of the category woman being enacted by trans women. is analysis highlights how transphobic (and specically transmisogynistic) attitudes are accomplished in social interaction through sequential action and categorial inferences.

Sex, Gender, and Bodies: Transmisogyny andGarﬁnkel’s Status Degradation CeremonyElle HendersonOpen Polytechnic |Te P ¯ukenga, Lower Hutt, New ZealandEmma TennentVictoria University of Wellington, Wellington, New ZealandHatred and fear of trans people, particularly trans women, are world-wide social phenomena. Transphobic rhetoric rests on essentialistunderstandings of sex and gender, but ethnomethodology shows howthe “natural attitude” to sex/gender is a practical accomplishment. Weuse conversation analysis and membership categorization analysis toexamine the workings of the natural attitude in a public submissionto a government select committee about a law that would affect trans-gender people. We adapt Garﬁnkel’s concept of the status degradationceremony to show how the submission systematically used categoriesof sex and gender to present trans women as illegitimate and dangerousin women’s spaces. We also show how the submission was recognizedas transmisogynistic and challenged by government ministers of theselect committee. We thus show how people can accomplish andchallenge transmisogyny through common-sense knowledge aboutsex and gender.Keywords: transphobia, transmisogyny, social interaction, conversationanalysis, membership categorization analysis, natural attitude

xX💖🌹Xx_dolly_Angelic_xX🌹💖Xx@dollyangelic· Jul 3

The book Conversation and Cognition (edited by te Molder and Potter, 2005) is a great read for how discursive psychological work relates to big issues in psychological theory and method. www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.... On this matter, the intro says:

1. Questions of cognition and interaction
The questions addressed in this collection are derived from empirical
studies of interaction. The book is intended to extend and clarify issues
to do with the nature and role of cognitive entities in interaction analysis.
However, it is precisely that focus that makes for some interesting and
potentially novel implications for more traditional cognitive psychologists
and cognitive scientists.
The papers in this collection are relevant to a range of questions. Some
of the most important are:
How does cognition figure in the analysis of interaction? Alternatively,
can (and should) such analysis be done without recourse to cognitive
notions?
If speakers draw on cognitive notions, what is their status? That is,
what kind of thing is cognition for participants in interaction? How
is it invoked, described and oriented to by speakers in the course of
interaction?
In the strongest case, is interaction only explicable in terms of a set of
cognitive precursors (cognitivism)? How far can these precursors reflect
lay notions and orientations of conversational participants and how far
must they be derived from technical analyses?
How does interaction research throw light on continuing questions
about the possible relations between mental terms and cognitive
entities?
What implications does the exploration of these questions have for
experimental work in cognitive science?
These are complicated questions that raise fundamental issues about
method, theory and the nature of psychology. The aim is to clarify them,
underscore their significance, and show the way towards their answers.

Some papers consider a cognitive level of analysis indispensable (e.g.
Sanders). Some papers suggest that interaction analysis can reveal the
role of particular kinds of cognitive entities (e.g. Schaeffer and Maynard,
Drew and Pomerantz). Some suggest that analysis should respecify cognitive
notions in interactional terms (Lynch and Bogen, Wooffitt). Some
develop an agnostic approach (Hopper) or wish to consider cognitive
notions in terms of topics or orientations in participants’ talk (Edwards
and Potter). One paper (Coulter) provides a trenchant (and conceptually
based) critique of the whole enterprise of cognitive science.

xX💖🌹Xx_dolly_Angelic_xX🌹💖Xx@dollyangelic· Jul 3

Obviously many reasons why people should care about discursive psych. Discussing categorisation as a topic of interest to psychologists, Stokoe et al. (2025) give a good one. www.annualreviews.org/content/jour...

In order to “analyze the workings of categories, not to merely use them as they are used in the world” (Jefferson 2004a, p. 118), we need ways to study how people use categories in the world. This is a problem for psychology and is recognized as such by scholars of psychology, since this is a discipline that, while teaching students “from the first day of class that psychology is the science of behavior and that its ultimate goal is to describe and explain what people do,” it “pays remarkably little attention to the important things that people do”—instead using “introspective self-reports, hypothetical scenarios, and questionnaire ratings” (Baumeister et al. 2007, p. 396; see also de Oliveira & Baggs 2023). Ten years after Baumeister et al.’s critique, Mehl (2017, p. 184) similarly argued that

[l]aypersons often think of psychologists as professional people watchers. It is ironic, then, that naturalistic observation, as a methodology, has a remarkably thin history in our field.…At the same time, there are clear limitations to what self-reports can assess.…the psychological scientist's tool kit also needs a method to directly observe human behavior in daily life.…naturalistic observation can bring behavioral data collection to where moment-to-moment behavior naturally happens.

It is ironic—and frustrating—that neither of these psychologists mentions CA as a corrective for the situation they critique. CA is a six-decades-old field of observational “cumulative science” (Stokoe 2021, p. 348). It is both a method for capturing, transcribing, and analyzing naturally occurring social interaction and a theory of human sociality (e.g., Heritage 2009, Schegloff 1987), examining how “ordinary activities get done methodically and reproducibly” (Schegloff 1992, p. xvii, emphasis added). Yet, even as psychologists press the importance of understanding conversation as “the primary means by which [social connection] is achieved,” they claim that “scientists know little about it—about how it starts, how it unfolds, or how it ends” (Mastroianni et al. 2021, p. 1; cf. Stokoe 2021). Indeed, many of the primary preoccupations of psychological science—personality, attitudes, cognition, neurodiversity, and many others—emerge and have their primary consequences felt in human interaction. Moreover, as Levinson (2006, p. 39) notes,

Much of the speculation about the origins and success of our species centers on the source of our big brains, the structure of our cognition, on the origins of language, the innate structures that support it, and on the striking cooperative potential in the species. These are genuine and important puzzles, but in the rush to understand them, we seem to have overlooked a core human ability and propensity, the study of which would throw a great deal of light on these other issues. It is right under our noses, much more accessible than the recesses of our brains or the fossils that track our evolutionary origins, and quite understudied. It is the structure of everyday human interaction.

Studying interaction across languages and cultures also offers a method for addressing contemporary crises in psychological science. These include critiques centered on the dominance of North American scholarship (e.g., Faye 2012) and of psychology as a WEIRD science—that is, the argument that “psychological data are dominated by samples drawn from Western, educated, industrialized, rich, and democratic (WEIRD) nations, and overwhelmingly, the United States” (Muthukrishna et al. 2020, p. 678). The WEIRD critique was prefigured by the articulation of a similar set of issues by critical psychologists, including about the replicability of key psychological research findings, that originally arose during the 1970s (e.g., Lewin 1977, Moghaddam 1987, Nelson & Kannenberg 1976) before reemerging in the 2010s, which Nosek et al. (2022, p. 721) describe on this basis as “psychology's decade of crisis.”

xX💖🌹Xx_dolly_Angelic_xX🌹💖Xx@dollyangelic· Jul 3

Very basically, what is discursive psych (Humă et al., 2020) doi.org/10.1080/1478...

Discursive psychology within the context of psychological science
For psychology, DP embodies the ‘turn to language’ that has permeated the
social sciences in the second part of the 20th century. DP approaches
psychological phenomena through either social constructionist or ethnomethodological frameworks thus challenging the cognitive paradigm to
which psychological science has adhered in the last 70 years. These frameworks led to a shift both in the ingrained epistemological assumptions that
are brought to bear on the investigation of psychological phenomena as well
as in the methodological practices related to the collection/generation and
analysis of empirical evidence.
Within psychology, DP has argued and provided evidence for the need to
treat language as a medium for action and not as a ‘window’ to the mind
(Edwards and Potter 1993), in direct challenge of what we might consider
‘mainstream’ psychology for which individuals’ responses to stimuli are the
means of getting at their psychological processes rather than social actions
worthy of investigation. Discursive psychological research has demonstrated

time and again that and how we ‘do things with language’, even in experimental settings (Gibson 2013; Leudar and Antaki 1996). But, to study
language-in-action, discursive psychologists had to step outside the experimental laboratory or the interview room and take a recorder to the settings
where life happens. Thus, DP, through its methods of data collection, distinguishes itself not only from quantitative and experimental psychology, but
also from other well-established qualitative methodologies.
Discursive psychologists have studied extensively what are traditionally
conceived of as ‘core’ psychological topics such as memory, attitudes, prejudice, identity, and emotions (Tileagă and Stokoe 2016). But many psychologists, especially in North American psychology, remain unfamiliar with the
established DP theory, method, and findings. This is not only because DP’s
respecification of psychological topics is incongruous with longstanding
cognitive conceptualisations of, say, attitudes, memories, attribution, or emotion (Edwards and Potter 1992); but also because much of psychology is
constrained by its (quantitative, experimental) methods, and because it is
often wrongly assumed that DP is a subsection of qualitative or critical
psychology without understanding how radically different it is to, say, the
methodologies of thematic analysis, or interview-based work (Stokoe 2020).

Three decades of findings from DP studies seriously challenge established,
but often normative, cognitive representations of psychological phenomena,
rendering discursive and mainstream psychology difficult to reconcile, with
DP often taking a critical stance on cognitive psychology (Edwards and
Potter 2005), experimental (Antaki and Leudar 1992; Leudar and Antaki
1997), survey (Antaki 2006; Antaki and Rapley 1996) and qualitative methods
(Potter and Hepburn 2012; Puchta and Potter 2004). By re-examining core
psychological topics through a discursive lens, DP has provided insights into
the sequential, rhetorical, and interactional organisation of psychological
constructs, which has led to their respecification from veiled, individual
cognitive processes to demonstrable, shared discursive practices. By focusing
on the natural, practical, and intersubjective organisation of psychological
business in and through discourse, DP’s respecification programme, which
we present next, has endeavoured to revolutionise psychology in a similar
way to how ethnomethodology has transformed sociology (Garfinkel 1988).

xX💖🌹Xx_dolly_Angelic_xX🌹💖Xx@dollyangelic· Jun 7

My girlfriend thought I'd appreciate this from Sagan's Contact. It will suffice to say I love her very very much.

She began to understand why lovers talk baby talk to one another. There was no other socially acceptable circumstance in which the children inside her were permitted to come out. If the one-year-old, the five-year-old, the twelve-year-old, and the twenty-year-old all find compatible personalities in the beloved, there is a real chance to keep all of these sub-personas happy. Love ends their long loneliness. Perhaps the depth of love can be calibrated by the number of different selves that are actively involved in a given relationship.

xX💖🌹Xx_dolly_Angelic_xX🌹💖Xx@dollyangelic· May 29

"make welfare system administration more efficient" More efficient at doing what? taking the dehumanisation already so common in the benefit system and automating it. automating dehumanisation.

screenshot from the IBM wikipedia page. Top right is the bolded text "World War 2" and slightly beneath that "Main article: IBM and World War II). Below that a picture of a two people attending to so old-timey computers with the caption "NACA researchers using an IBM type 704 electronic data processing machine in 1957". To the right is the following text: "The Nazis made extensive use of Hollerith punch card and alphabetical accounting equipment and IBM's majority-owned German subsidiary, Deutsche Hollerith Maschinen GmbH (Dehomag), supplied this equipment from the early 1930s. This equipment was critical to Nazi efforts to categorize citizens of both Germany and other nations that fell under Nazi control through ongoing censuses. These census data were used to facilitate the round-up of Jews and other targeted groups, and to catalog their movements through the machinery of the Holocaust, including internment in the concentration camps.[31] Edwin Black contends in IBM and the Holocaust that IBM's dealings with Nazis through its New York City headquarters persisted during World War II.[32] Nazi concentration camps operated a Hollerith department called Hollerith Abteilung, which had IBM machines, including calculating and sorting machines.[33]"

xX💖🌹Xx_dolly_Angelic_xX🌹💖Xx@dollyangelic· May 21

obvs the first thing I thought upon seeing this article was 'decrease funding -> force people to only have AI to turn to'. And if you don't have a magic mirror with which to commune with the cosmic mind then you just can't access support.

She said last year CAB had helped 11,000 Wellingtonians including 1,130 people with employment issues and 400 people with income support issues.

"Someone came in recently who had lost their job and as a result of that drop in income, they couldn't keep up their rent payments. They lost their house and they were coming to us because they were homeless"

When asked about the potential of AI replacing their service Dalton said they had found a lot of people come to them wanting to speak with a real person after being frustrated with AI.

"People often need the reassurance of interacting with a person. They also need that information to be accurate."

"They're coming to us because they've only been able to talk to a bot and it's a very limited interaction with them."

xX💖🌹Xx_dolly_Angelic_xX🌹💖Xx@dollyangelic· May 19

doing my best not to fall in this time war, but the destruction of thousands of public service jobs with the intent to replace a lot of function with whatever the hell "AI" is is a real blow to the heart ❤️‍🩹 because they want a heartless, human-free society.

A "100% pure New Zealand" tourism campaign ad. Snowy mountains and cloud. The words 100% Pure New Zealand are in white in the center. I have scribbled out the word "pure" with white and put on top, slightly askew, the word "automated" in fuchsia.

xX💖🌹Xx_dolly_Angelic_xX🌹💖Xx@dollyangelic· May 14

E.g., Gail Jefferson (1990) on three-part lists in social interaction. We mustn't fool ourselves into letting the gibberish machines take credit for the rich repertoire of interactional resources humans have devised in order to conduct human business. This is human social technology. It is art.

List-Construction as a Task
and Resource
Gail Jefferson
The occurrence of lists in natural conversation is examined
to reveal some of the interactional relevances of such list pro-
ductions.
The presence of three-part lists are first noted. Speakers and
hearers orient to their three-part nature. The completed list
can then constitute a turn at talk and the hearer can monitor
the third component as a sign of turn completion. Lists can
thereby be a conversational sequential resource.
By virtue of the three-part structure of some lists, members
can orient to such matters as a ‘‘weak,”’ “absent,’’ or “missing”
third part. Third items can be used to accomplish particular
interactional work, such as topic-shifting and offense avoid-
ance.
Further, a list can be constructed by more than one
speaker. This feature may be used for a range of activities,
including the achievement of interactional accord in situations
of impending discord.
This report is a preliminary examination of lists occurring in natural
conversation. It focuses upon the work which list-construction, as a
task, allots to speakers, and some uses to which list-construction, as a
resource, can be put by speakers.
1. A first observation is that many lists occur as three-part units.
*This is a revision of a paper presented at the University of Massachusetts,
Amherst, September 1973.
63

xX💖🌹Xx_dolly_Angelic_xX🌹💖Xx@dollyangelic· May 6

Conceptual confusions throughout. "Executive function" isn't something the brain does. It's an umbrella term for cognitive- (not neural-) level phenomena. You can't scan a brain and find the executive functions. You also cannot infer "poorer brain function" from (comparatively) lower connectivity.

Eight neuroimaging studies were particularly concerning, Reid said. The studies showed higher screen time was negatively affecting children's brain growth, and impacting on brain connectivity - how different areas of the brain were talking to each other.

"That does imply poorer brain function over time."

The study did not establish causality between screen use and poor brain function, because other factors such as sleep, physical activity and social interaction were key, Reid said.

But a prevailing theory that emerged from the research was that children were missing out on talking with their parents and socialising with peers due to the time they were spending online.

"The screens are displacing really important developmental activities that children need to undertake in order to thrive in life," Reid said.

The University of Auckland study - which pulled together research from around the world - found 81 percent of 58 studies showed at least one negative link between screen use and the brain's executive function, or management system.

Lead researcher Claire Reid said the study found "a really clear pattern" that higher or problematic screen time predicted difficulties in attention and focus, planning, impulse control, and that it could result in long term physical changes to children's brains.

"Your [brain's] executive function is really fundamental to many important life outcomes. It's been proven to predict or linked to things such as helping learning, your academic success, your social success, your wealth, your career, and emotional regulation - wellbeing, mental health and resilience," said Reid, who is a PHD student at the School of Psychology.

She said the review didn't conclude how many hours of screen time could cause harm - though it looked at how often kids were online and how they were using screens, gaming and social media.

"It's not just the time you're on and the frequency, but how it's impacting the rest of your life, whether it's changing your relationships, when you're missing out on things such as school work and social interaction because of it."

xX💖🌹Xx_dolly_Angelic_xX🌹💖Xx@dollyangelic· Apr 22

patriarchy??

Picture of an orange road cone with a sign saying "danger. Men working above"

xX💖🌹Xx_dolly_Angelic_xX🌹💖Xx@dollyangelic· Apr 16

nomnom ginger crunch

White marble background, a kitchen counter. On it a white plate with a pile of cut pieces of ginger crunch. Pink scribbly hearts drawn in in the top right, bottom right, and bottom left

xX💖🌹Xx_dolly_Angelic_xX🌹💖Xx@dollyangelic· Apr 16

"They call me Doctor Word Good morning, how are you? I'm Doctor Word"

Screenshot of Google listing for the song Dr Worm but TMBG. The word "worm" has been cribbled out and written over in pink spelling "word"

xX💖🌹Xx_dolly_Angelic_xX🌹💖Xx@dollyangelic· Apr 14

That liking a media product makes you a member of a community (i.e., a fandom) was always going to lead to fandom/s becoming "moral communities" (cf. Tam & Rafaely 2025) w/ the differences between members of different fandoms & between fandoms and creators taking on increasingly moralistic quality.

morality, far from being a static or imposed social structure, is an interactional achievement that is intersubjectively affirmed and reproduced by members, thus containing possibilities for transformation and change. Because of this, a system that displays internal coherence in locating its actions as morally sound can be considered a “moral community,” whether or not the actions which constitute it conform to generic social norms. We also provide evidence for moral communities as being observable resources drawn on, and reflexively reproduced, by participant actions as intelligible and recognizable to one another. Furthermore, moral communities as intersubjectively and locally (re)produced categories, furnish accounts and actions with their intelligibility.

xX💖🌹Xx_dolly_Angelic_xX🌹💖Xx@dollyangelic· Apr 10

maxie and me took mother to see Project Hail Mary. look at maxie waiting patiently for the movie to start before digging into the maltesers. we looooved the movie. i cried a bunch at some parts. it was beautiful and funny and exciting and stressful and inspiring 💖🚀🌠🌌💕

Me holding Maxie, sitting in a movie theatre.

Maxie sitting in a theatre chair with an unopened bag of maltesers in his lap

xX💖🌹Xx_dolly_Angelic_xX🌹💖Xx@dollyangelic· Apr 9

The only one with the "power to do whatever they want in the world" is God. Of those who see everyone and everything below them and no one or anything above them, Simone Weil said...

Obedience being a necessary food for the soul, whoever is definitely deprived of it is ill. This, body politic governed by a sovereign ruler accountable to nobody is in the hands of a sick man.

xX💖🌹Xx_dolly_Angelic_xX🌹💖Xx@dollyangelic· Apr 9

Pale blue dot earth picture. To the right is purple text on blackground which reads "it's an integrated computer network and I will not have it aboard this ship". From the word "this" there is an arrow point to the earth

xX💖🌹Xx_dolly_Angelic_xX🌹💖Xx@dollyangelic· Apr 6

cotton candy firmament

Photo of the sky. Heavily saturated. Deep sky blue and the clouds are tinted purply.

xX💖🌹Xx_dolly_Angelic_xX🌹💖Xx@dollyangelic· Apr 4

It is Sunday. The tomb is empty and Christ has risen. By love, Jesus thwarted Empire and defeated death. Only by love will we do the same. A day to consider in all seriousness this passage of wisdom from a most sacred text:

xX💖🌹Xx_dolly_Angelic_xX🌹💖Xx@dollyangelic· Apr 3

in fact the designing of the question means the answers are ignoring contiguity to pick 'gay', similar to what Antaki & O'Reilly (2013) talk about here journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1...

Screenshot of the article title and abstract.

Either/or questions in child psychiatric assessments: The effect of the seriousness and order of the alternatives
Charles Antaki and Michelle O’Reilly
Volume 16, Issue 3
https://doi.org/10.1177/1461445613508898

Abstract
Mental health practitioners, assessing children for possible psychiatric conditions, need to probe sensitive matters. We examine practitioners’ use of questions which try to clarify a given issue by offering alternative descriptions of how things are: one bland, and the other clearly undesirable in some way. The undesirable states of affairs can be described in serious terms (e.g. the child wanting to kill themselves) or, while still undesirable, in less serious ones (e.g. the child feeling temporarily upset). We find that if an undesirable state of affairs is described in seriously negative terms, it tends to be put as the first item in the pair of alternatives. We argue that this version of the familiar ‘optimistic questioning’ practice ensures that were the negative case to be chosen, it would be in spite of it being the more interactionally difficult answer to give. That makes the answer diagnostically more reliable. We discuss the pros and cons use of this practice in the environment of triage.

xX💖🌹Xx_dolly_Angelic_xX🌹💖Xx@dollyangelic· Apr 2

winston peters is describing trans people existing as a "cancerous". fascism (for what else is this "social engineering" but an extant people expecting the same protections as everyone else?) a disgusting transposition, when he is the one proposing to legislatively engineer our civil rights away

Peters has previously said his party's bill would be "a win for common sense".

"This bill would ensure our country moves away from the woke ideology that has crept in over the last few years, undermining the protection, progression, and safety of women."

NZ First wants to see “women” defined in law as an “adult human biological female” and “man” defined as an “adult human biological male”.

Peters added: “These definitions in law fight back against the cancerous social engineering we’ve seen being pushed in society by a woke minority.

"The need for legislation like this shows how far the deluded left has taken us as a society. But we are fighting back."

xX💖🌹Xx_dolly_Angelic_xX🌹💖Xx@dollyangelic· Apr 1

so, of the two recent converts to catholicism in christchurch, the first one covered in this article ostensively eschewed the manosphere for Michael Knowles (notable for being a huge bigot generally but also for calling for trans genocide at CPAC) www.rnz.co.nz/life/people/...

screenshot of the top of the article in question. Headline is "A 'quiet' catholic revival? Christchurch says 'yes'".
Below that it says "After years of declining church membership, something strange is happening in Christchurch: young men are returning to the Catholic Church."

below that is a picture of a priest baptising a person

text from the article. it reads "He came of age during a chaotic period for young men, where some felt vilified by culture shifts such #Metoo, the anti-harassment movement that started in 2017. A few found representation in online influencers like Andrew Tate, who beckoned lost young men into the often misogynistic world of the manosphere, where wealth and ripped bodies are antidotes to a perceived female takeover. But Hatcher found those ideals were lacking. Instead, he gravitated towards media personalities like Michael Knowles, a US conservative commentator who is open about his Catholic faith. What Hatcher admired in Knowles, he also saw in the few Catholic friends he had."

xX💖🌹Xx_dolly_Angelic_xX🌹💖Xx@dollyangelic· Mar 31

have found myself re-reading one of my all-time favourite papers, Nikolas Rose's (1988) 'Calculable Minds and Manageable Individuals'. i used to teach it in psych research methods. just some great, simple and elegant writing. (These pics are from pp. 187-188)

History of the human science vol. 1 No. 2

Calculable minds and manageable individuals

Nikolas Rose
Brunel University

One fruitful way of thinking about the mode of functioning of the psychological sciences, and their linkages with more general social, political, and ethical transformations, might therefore be to understand them as techniques for the disciplining of human difference: individualizing humans through classifying them, calibrating their capacities and conducts, inscribing and recording their attributes and deficiencies, managing and utilizing their individuality and variability.
Foucault argued that the disciplines ’make’ individuals by means of some rather simple technical procedures. On the parade ground, in the factory, in the school, and in the hospital, people are gathered together en masse, but by this very fact may be observed as entities both similar to and different from one another. These institutions function in certain respects like telescopes, microscopes, or other scientific instruments: they establish a regime of visibility in which the observed is distributed within a single common plane of sight. Second, these institutions operate according to a regulation of detail. These regulations, and the evaluation of conduct, manners, and so forth entailed by them, establish a grid of codeability of personal attributes. They act as norms, enabling the previously aleatory and unpredictable complexities of human conduct to be conceptually coded and cognized in terms of judgements as to conformity or deviation from such norms.

The formation of a plane of sight and a means of codeability establishes a grid of perception for registering the details of individual conduct. These have become both visible - the objects of a certain regime of visibility – and cognizable - no longer lost in the fleeting passage of space, time, movement, and voice but identifiable and notable in so far as they conform to or deviate from the network of norms which begins to spread out over the space of personal existence. Behavioural space begins to be geometrized, enabling a fixing of what was previously regarded as quintessentially unique into an ordered space of knowledge. The person is produced as a knowable individual in a process in which the properties of a disciplinary regime, its norms and values, have merged with and become attributes of persons themselves.
The individual of the psychological sciences is, to adopt a term used in another context by Michael Lynch, a ’docile’ object, one that behaves
in accordance with a programme of normalization ... when an object becomes observable, measurable and quantifiable, it has already become civilized: the disciplinary organization of civilization extends its subjection to the object in the very way it makes it knowable. The docile object provides the material template that variously supports or frustrates the operations performed upon it. (Lynch, 1985: 43-4)

We should not, however, think of this movement from the complexities of actuality to the objectifications of knowledge as one from the concrete to the abstract. The thought object is far more concrete, far more real than its elusive ’real’ referent. Persons are ephemeral, they are shifting, they change before one’s eyes and are hard to perceive in any stable manner. Individualizing observation - be it in the institution, in the laboratory, in the clinic, in the consulting room, or in the psychoanalyst’s office - makes the person stable through constructing a perceptual system, a way of rendering the mobile and confusing manifold of the sensible into a cognizable field. And in this perceptual process the phenomenal world is normalized - that is to say, thought of in terms of its coincidences and differences from values deemed normal - in the very process of making it visible to science. Perhaps the psychological sciences differ from other sciences only in their low epistemological threshold. That is to say, so frequently the norms which enable their objects to become observable, measurable, and quantifiable become part of the scientific programme of perception as a consequence of having first been part of a social and institutional programme of regulation - and to such programmes they are destined to return.

xX💖🌹Xx_dolly_Angelic_xX🌹💖Xx@dollyangelic· Mar 30

This is Richard Green (co-founder of anti-trans conversion theory/practice in the 70s) writing in 2010, arguing exact the same point to justify torturing children. 'Society' is a hard problem, so just individualise everyone and then edit those individuals. Society is now no problem.

Four years after Sex and Gender, Larry Newman, Stoller, and
I published ‘‘Treatment of Boyhood ‘Transsexualism’’’(Green,
Newman, & Stoller, 1972). Transsexualism was in quotes as we
could not be certain that these boys were pre-transsexual. We
wrote: ‘‘We have previously described the behavior of very
feminine young boys. Based on retrospective reports of childhood behavior given by adult males who want sex-change
surgery, there is reason to believe these boys are pre-transsexual’’(Green et al., p. 213). Why treat?
As long-term follow-up data are not yet available, we
cannot state with certainty that these boys, if untreated,
would mature into adult transsexuals. However, because
1) there are no reports of adolescent or adult transsexuals
who have successfully reoriented their profound crossgender identity…(and) 2) because males with an
extremely feminine identity in our culture undergo considerable social hardship, at all ages, we have attempted…
intervention during boyhood. (Green et al., 1972, p. 213)
But, should we change society or change the child? ‘‘While
privately, one might prefer to modify society’s attitudes toward
cross-gender behavior, in the consultation room with an unhappy
youngster, one feels far more optimistic about modifying the
behavior of that one child than the entire of society’’(Green et al.,
p. 217).
Our caution about the adult outcome of such boys was wise.

xX💖🌹Xx_dolly_Angelic_xX🌹💖Xx@dollyangelic· Mar 29

A ball of fireworks. a collection of nodes in a graph. just a pwetty fing, coz we need to wemember all da pwetty fings in da world 🩷🩷🩷🩷🩷

Closeup image of a dandelion. It looks all fuzzy but also like each seed is a node in a complex network. The colour has been altered to bring out the whites and blues and purples. The dandelion takes up the top right corner of the image with fuzzy blurry background in the rest of the picture.

xX💖🌹Xx_dolly_Angelic_xX🌹💖Xx@dollyangelic· Mar 29

a miserable morning. absolutely crumpled in the shower, sobbing. the state of the world is so painful. thinking of all those poor kids being forced to leave the girl guides because evil rich people cant stand to see children happy to be alive. terribly miserable dragons setting children on fire.

screenshot from poor things, bella's face, crying. the subtitle with the line "It is a bad day for Bella Baxter"

xX💖🌹Xx_dolly_Angelic_xX🌹💖Xx@dollyangelic· Mar 28

Seems a good argument for reconsidering the necessity of such "therapy". Like, the children demo engagement and the therapists demo sensitivity to that engagement, so what's the "therapy" for? In my own work doing similar in home interactions, I suggested NTs are the proper recipients of training.

The analyses reported here support the idea that an appropriate avenue for intervention design might instead involve teaching an interactional approach focused on the mutual production of action in context. Instead of focusing on training autistic individuals’ interactional skills, interventions could focus on teaching both autistic people and their friends, family, and/or professionals about how people make themselves understood in interaction.In this way, people who interact with autistic people might learn to appreciate autistic people’s conduct for what it accomplishes, rather than for what it appears to lack. An educational approach to social interactional intervention has been developed called the conversation analytic role-play method, or CARM (Stokoe, 2014). With CARM, people are shown cases of their own real-life interactions where they are trying to accomplish some activity, and are shown how, across a collection of such instances, some interactional moves work to accomplish that activity, while others do not. This has been used successfully by teachers in early childhood education in the resolution of children’s disputes (Church and Bateman, 2019). This kind of approach may help family, friends, and professionals to, at least, mitigate some degree of the interactional difficulty associated with autism by demonstrating their part in the double empathy problem of interaction (Milton, 2012) and increasing their own sensitivity to autistic children’s interactional moves

xX💖🌹Xx_dolly_Angelic_xX🌹💖Xx@dollyangelic· Mar 19

more fucken sand