I want to do another thread on my thoughts about this pic of Ollie Murs that has spawned so many takes, yet there is a baffling misconception of what is going on here that can only be explained by the loss of places like the old bodybuilding forums.

Here's an example of emperor Tiberius. A military man. Shockingly similar physique to the after photo above.

4 years of a Kindleberger spiral is not going to be pretty. Between angering our allies, the larger tariffs, and much larger effective increase, the magnitude could be a good bit bigger.